You're correct, I had several in-person discussions, for example, with the workers in Chibougamau. More recently, I also held virtual discussions. Unlike the Conservative Party of Canada, those people understand that the future of their jobs and the sector depend on the sustainability of the forest. They also understand that one can't happen without the other.
Caribou are a kind of barometer species, if you will. If this species is doing well, we can assume that those ecosystems are doing well. Of course, studies are needed to be sure.
It's worth pointing out—and I think this will partially answer what Mr. Simard was saying earlier—that we've already succeeded in restoring the caribou population in Canada, thanks to agreements with the provinces and aboriginal peoples. It can be done, but everyone has to sit down at the table and want to find a solution. Right now, a lot of people are at the table, but the Quebec government isn't. All I'm asking is that the Quebec government sit down at the table with us and all the other stakeholders to find a solution.