I just think it's interesting that the gentleman previous said that we should not expand on natural gas, because the way that the U.S. has absolutely crushed its emissions goals is by shifting from coal to natural gas. It has done so by financing projects at certainly the bank level and definitely a pension fund level. Obviously, there was some private money in there too. Is the goal to end the fossil fuel industry or is the goal to end emissions? That's the first thing.
The second thing is that, yes, that would be an important consideration. When you think about reducing emissions, probably the most important example of using fossil fuels to drastically do so—we're not talking about a little bit here, we're talking about 20% over maybe a 10- or 12-year period—was through a transition to natural gas.