I guess you'll have to look at what was in discussion at Parks Canada at that time. If you look, we always have a number of different techniques that we employ. That's what, in fact....
What Mr. Leslie read in the second email was from the head of the fire group, Tamaini Snaith. At that time, Dr. Snaith said, in fact, that we wouldn't be looking at that. For Darlene and myself—