Evidence of meeting #125 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was witnesses.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Ken Hodges  As an Individual
Randy Schroeder  President, Alberta Fire Chiefs Association
Glenn Hargrove  Assistant Deputy Minister, Canadian Forest Service, Department of Natural Resources
Jessica Kaknevicius  Chief Executive Officer, Forests Ontario
Dan Thompson  Research Scientist, Forest Fires, Department of Natural Resources
Michael Norton  Director General, Northern Forestry Centre, Department of Natural Resources

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

It will be sent around to everybody in French and in English.

While we're getting ready to send it, I want to review where we're at to make sure that we're all on the same wavelength.

You'll get this in writing in English and French in a few minutes. Basically, all we're doing with the original motion is changing “four additional meetings” to “two additional meetings”. Also, we're specifying that these meetings will be on October 21 and October 23.

Leah Taylor Roy Liberal Aurora—Oak Ridges—Richmond Hill, ON

Could I make a subamendment to that, then?

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Why don't we wait until everybody has it in their inbox?

The problem is that I have Mr. Lloyd, Mr. van Koeverden and Mr. Soroka before you, Ms. Taylor Roy. Your chance to make a subamendment is in four speakers.

Leah Taylor Roy Liberal Aurora—Oak Ridges—Richmond Hill, ON

Okay.

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Can you tell me, just out of curiosity, what the subamendment is? I might be able to slip it in there somehow.

Leah Taylor Roy Liberal Aurora—Oak Ridges—Richmond Hill, ON

Yes. My subamendment would be to say that these two meetings proposed by Madame Pauzé make sense, but I think they would make a lot more sense after the inquiry that's being undertaken right now for the Jasper wildfire complex. Multiple parties are involved in this: Parks Canada, the Alberta government, emergency management teams and indigenous people.

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Are you arguing against the amendment?

Leah Taylor Roy Liberal Aurora—Oak Ridges—Richmond Hill, ON

No. I'm just saying to wait until the experts on the ground—

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Your subamendment would be to wait.

Leah Taylor Roy Liberal Aurora—Oak Ridges—Richmond Hill, ON

Yes, that would be my subamendment. It's just the dates. Let's wait until the inquiry is under way or complete. That's all.

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

I don't think you'll get agreement on that, but we'll see.

The amendment has been sent around in French and English.

Essentially, it's very simple. We're changing the motion by changing “four additional meetings” to “two additional meetings” and we're specifying that these meetings should be on October 21 and October 23. Also, we're saying that Minister Boissonnault and his officials must come for two hours.

Is that right, Ms. Pauzé? Have I understood correctly? First, you propose replacing the four additional meetings with just two additional meetings.

Monique Pauzé Bloc Repentigny, QC

Yes.

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Second, you specify that these meetings must take place on October 21 and 23.

Monique Pauzé Bloc Repentigny, QC

Yes.

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Finally, you also specify that Minister Boissonnault, accompanied by his officials, must appear for two hours.

Monique Pauzé Bloc Repentigny, QC

Usually, a minister appears for one hour, and their officials stay in the room for the next hour. To me, it's the same—

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Right.

Monique Pauzé Bloc Repentigny, QC

So we won't keep the minister for two hours. We'll do what we usually do.

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

We'll do what we usually do.

Do all members of the committee understand? Those are the proposed changes, and they're pretty straightforward.

Mr. Lloyd, did you want to speak to the amendment? I mean, if everyone's in agreement, we don't have to speak that long. I'm not telling you what to do, but I'm just saying that time is running fast, if we want to get this passed.

Go ahead.

6:10 p.m.

Conservative

Dane Lloyd Conservative Sturgeon River—Parkland, AB

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I guess if everyone is in agreement, then I'll cede my time.

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Okay.

Mr. van Koeverden, are you good?

Adam van Koeverden Liberal Milton, ON

I appreciate the effort for expediency, but given that we have a subamendment on the floor—

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

We don't have it yet.

Adam van Koeverden Liberal Milton, ON

I'll cede my time, then.

Or I could just run the subamendment, if that's quicker.

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

You can if you wish.