I'd say that anyone coming from a finance background will tell you that to invest in risky technologies, first-of-its-kind innovation or things that haven't been done before requires a cost of capital that allows money to flow into these solutions. Today, I'd say one of the bigger challenges that we have, when discussing our technology with oil sands operators, is providing that capital commitment for a first-of-its-kind deployment.
In that type of environment, again, I think it's really important that we have this partnership between innovators, public companies and the government to institute these technologies. In situations where capital is leaving that sector, every single project that we're looking at, whether it's traditional oil and gas, energy transition solutions or things to deal with their liabilities, will suffer due to the lack of capital in the space.