As I look at this entire issue, one of the problems we have is the agreed definition of what is a subsidy, and what's not a subsidy.
Could I get your thoughts on that? I come from Oshawa, and Oshawa has an auto industry. Internationally, it doesn't necessarily mean it's Canada's desire to play the game—if I can use that term—but if other countries are going to support their sector, and if we don't have some type of support, then our sectors die and the jobs go with it.
We see that with the energy sector, especially for national security, and we're seeing that with the war in Europe. I don't necessarily agree with witnesses who say that we have to phase out the sector 100%. I think that in the future we're going to have certain requirements.
Are there are any internationally agreed upon definitions that we could look at as far as what is a subsidy and what's not a subsidy?