Yes. I would say to those and to EDC in particular, with all due respect, that when it says it is not providing subsidies but is providing supports, it's drawing a distinction without a difference when it comes to phasing out fossil fuel production.
If it's going to continue to ignore well-established and long-standing definitions of “subsidy” that have been adopted internationally, which are very broad, then it ought to provide Canadians with the rationale for why, but really, we should move beyond this pointless debate. We shouldn't be propping up an industry that we know—and we don't have any choice about it, whether you like it or not—we have to phase out.