I only have two and a half minutes, so we'll have to be quick.
Ms. Lavery, I have a request for you. You said that, for the first time, your investments in clean technology have surpassed investments in the fossil fuel sector. In the next few weeks, I would like you to submit a record of those investments to the committee.
Now I have a question for Mr. MacLean or Professor Leroux. They could both respond.
I'm going to circle back to what I said in the last 30 seconds of my previous turn. I said that in 2021, a total of $79 million was paid out to the top executives of each of the six largest oil and gas companies. At the same time, these companies say they can't transition without public funds. However, they're not innovating and they want to keep producing. What does that say to you?
Wouldn't the time wasted on defining what works and what doesn't be better spent starting a real transition?