Evidence of meeting #130 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was esg.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Hugues Chenet  Associate Professor, IESEG School of Management, As an Individual
Bryce C. Tingle  N. Murray Edwards Chair in Business Law, Faculty of Law, University of Calgary, As an Individual
Rosemary McGuire  Vice-President of Member Experience, Chartered Professional Accountants of Canada

12:20 p.m.

Conservative

Branden Leslie Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Could I add my name to the list on the main motion? I will pick up on these many important points at that point, but I will make one—

Adam van Koeverden Liberal Milton, ON

On a point of order, Mr. Chair, my colleagues have pointed out that we have witnesses in the room and my colleagues have said that they're in favour of the motion. We could vote, we could finish the meeting and we could hear testimony.

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

I have a speaking list, unfortunately, and I have to go through it. My hands are tied.

We'll put Mr. Leslie on the list for the main—

Monique Pauzé Bloc Repentigny, QC

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Yes, Ms. Pauzé.

Monique Pauzé Bloc Repentigny, QC

We want the Minister of Environment and Climate Change to appear for one hour on November 6. That said, I can't believe how much time we are wasting. Since the minister is coming anyway, there's no need for the amendment, is there?

Mr. Leslie has said a number of times that witnesses are here to discuss sustainable finance, but we seem to want to postpone all that. We won't finish our sustainable finance study on Wednesday because of the time we're wasting right now.

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

It will be up to the committee to decide. However, you're right.

The problem is that if we don't adopt this motion, the minister won't appear. In other words, we are inviting the minister through the motion. If we don't adopt the motion, Wednesday is up in the air and we don't know when we'll be able to invite him.

Can I see the original motion, unamended?

In the transcript of the meeting, it says that the minister is prepared to appear on Bill C‑73 on Wednesday. Everyone seems to agree on that. If the amendment is withdrawn and we adopt the motion, we'll get the desired result.

Monique Pauzé Bloc Repentigny, QC

That's correct.

I withdraw my amendment, Mr. Chair.

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Okay, that's great.

Monique Pauzé Bloc Repentigny, QC

The members of the Conservative Party keep saying that they want to hear from the minister in committee. He could be here on Wednesday, but we're wasting time.

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Since Ms. Pauzé withdrew her amendment, we are back to the motion.

Ms. Collins, do you want to speak to the original motion? Are you on the amendment or the original motion?

Leah Taylor Roy Liberal Aurora—Oak Ridges—Richmond Hill, ON

I have another amendment to put forward—

Laurel Collins NDP Victoria, BC

I was hoping to speak to both.

Branden Leslie Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

Did I lose the floor because it was withdrawn?

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Okay, I had Ms. Collins. Give me just a second.

Ms. Collins, what did you want to talk about?

Laurel Collins NDP Victoria, BC

I was hoping to speak to both the amendment and—

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Well, the amendment's gone, so we'll put you on the list for the original motion.

Ms. Taylor Roy, do you want to speak to the original motion and propose an amendment?

Mr. Mazier, do you want to speak to something?

You do, and it's the original motion. Okay.

12:20 p.m.

Conservative

Branden Leslie Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Yes, Mr. Leslie, we're going back to you, because on the original motion, you're next.

Leah Taylor Roy Liberal Aurora—Oak Ridges—Richmond Hill, ON

No. I was next.

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Is this an amendment to Madame Pauzé's amendment?

Leah Taylor Roy Liberal Aurora—Oak Ridges—Richmond Hill, ON

No, it's on the motion. I was not on that list to speak. I was making an amendment to the main motion.

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

You were on the list, but I thought you wanted to speak to the amendment.

Leah Taylor Roy Liberal Aurora—Oak Ridges—Richmond Hill, ON

No. I said I had an amendment.

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Okay. Go ahead, and then we'll go back to Mr. Leslie.