Evidence of meeting #130 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was esg.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia
Okay, we're back.
We have Ms. Collins.
It should be at the bottom of the page.
I'll read you paragraph (b) as proposed by Ms. Collins:
“That the first hour of this study begin the first meeting following the adoption of this motion, and the timing of the remaining meetings of this pre-study be determined at the next subcommittee meeting.”
Ms. Collins, would you like to speak to this?
NDP
Laurel Collins NDP Victoria, BC
In general, I want to highlight.... Maybe I'll just start by realizing that my subamendment has the typo from the original amendment. We need to edit “meetings” and put it as the singular.
With regard to the amendment itself and the importance of doing a prestudy on Bill C-73, it is a really important bill that we want to tackle and it is important when we're thinking about biodiversity and accountability. We want to make sure that we have the minister come this Wednesday, which everyone's in agreement with.
As this is clearly a conversation that's going to take a little while, normally we would schedule another study from the list of studies that we need to do at a subcommittee meeting so that we wouldn't take up witness time. This is a way for us to make sure that this conversation can happen.
My big priority is to make sure that we honour the wishes of the nations that have asked Parliament to look at the contamination in Fort Chipewyan. I want to make sure that the remaining meetings of this prestudy don't displace that and allow the current government to avoid accountability on the contamination and the lack of transparency and communication to those nations in Fort Chipewyan.
I also want to make sure that we get to this prestudy on Bill C-73. It is critical. I'm hoping that this is a way that we can have the whole committee come together, pass this motion today and then move on with the business at hand.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia
Is there anyone else to speak on the subamendment?
Go ahead, Mr. Leslie.
Conservative
Branden Leslie Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I think it is a reasonable amendment from my colleague. I hope we can find a solution to further amending it to deal with, as I mentioned earlier, the many issues that are pressing to this committee and the work that has been undertaken so that we do not have this study push back our agenda until, more or less, the spring.
We may risk losing all of the reports and all of the work. I even forgot earlier about the caribou study and the letter that we'll be sending there. We have a lot of things on the table. In order to try to help clean that up.... As well, you outlined some of the more recent news that we've received about the tentative schedule for the meeting with the environment commissioner and an apparent appearance from Minister Boissonnault. I would like to clarify that we do have Minister Boissonnault coming here.
I'd like to subamend the subamendment by adding after—
November 4th, 2024 / 12:50 p.m.
Conservative
Conservative
Branden Leslie Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB
—the “adoption of this motion”, “but none shall commence until the committee has heard from Minister Boissonnault in relation to the study of the factors leading to the recent fires in Jasper National Park”, which I think is—
Liberal
Liberal
NDP
Laurel Collins NDP Victoria, BC
It is.
We have an amendment from Ms. Taylor Roy. I have a subamendment to that amendment. I don't think that, procedurally, we're allowed to have a subamendment to a subamendment.
I'm very much interested in hearing what Mr. Leslie has to say, but I think that we might have to deal with this subamendment before we move on to another.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia
That's a good question. Let me clarify.
We're going to pause while we double-check that.
Thank you.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia
Ms. Collins, you were right on this.
We're going to have to deal with Ms. Taylor Roy's subamendment first, but Mr. Leslie wants to speak to the amendment. He's not proposing something now. He can't do that right now, but he still wants to speak to Ms. Collins' subamendment.
Conservative
Branden Leslie Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB
I did, but it was to move my subamendment. However, we're not allowed to. I don't know if my colleagues have anything to add on this specific subamendment.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia
We're going to have to deal with this. Can we vote on Ms. Collins' subamendment? I have no one else to speak to it.
Let's have a vote on Ms. Collins' subamendment, which we just read before. It's that “the timing of the remaining meetings of this pre-study be determined at the next subcommittee meeting.” That's what we're voting on.
Liberal
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia
We're voting on Ms. Collins' subamendment, which adds the following: “, and the timing of the remaining meetings of this pre-study be determined at the next steering committee meeting.”
Let's vote.
(Subamendment agreed to)
It passes, so we go back to the original motion as amended.
I have a list of Mr. Leslie, Ms. Collins, Ms. Taylor Roy and Mr. Mazier. This is on the main motion as amended.
Go ahead, Mr. Leslie.
Liberal
Leah Taylor Roy Liberal Aurora—Oak Ridges—Richmond Hill, ON
I have a point of order.
We just voted on the subamendment, didn't we?
Liberal
Leah Taylor Roy Liberal Aurora—Oak Ridges—Richmond Hill, ON
Don't we have to vote on the amendment now?
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia
No, there's no subamendment. It's an amendment. We weren't allowed to do a subamendment.
Liberal
Leah Taylor Roy Liberal Aurora—Oak Ridges—Richmond Hill, ON
Ms. Collins had a subamendment to my amendment. We voted on the subamendment. We haven't voted on the amendment yet.
Liberal
