Evidence of meeting #130 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was esg.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Hugues Chenet  Associate Professor, IESEG School of Management, As an Individual
Bryce C. Tingle  N. Murray Edwards Chair in Business Law, Faculty of Law, University of Calgary, As an Individual
Rosemary McGuire  Vice-President of Member Experience, Chartered Professional Accountants of Canada

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

No, that's not exactly what she was saying. She was saying that—

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Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Dauphin—Swan River—Neepawa, MB

She was nodding her head the whole time.

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

No, but.... Okay, can I clarify it? Basically—

Laurel Collins NDP Victoria, BC

Mr. Chair—

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Just a second, Ms. Collins.

Basically, Ms. Collins was saying to go ahead with one hour of the finance study on Wednesday, followed by the minister on Bill C-73, and then we would hold a subcommittee meeting to discuss the timing of Ms. Collins' study.

What I'm saying is that if we do that, I think the issue of Wednesday is settled. We're all in agreement, so I don't know why we're debating Wednesday. I think what we're debating now is whether we have a subcommittee meeting in lieu of one of our regular meetings, and then that subcommittee meeting would not be able to be held until November 25, because we've already agreed on what we're doing on the 18th and the 20th.

Therefore, what I'm suggesting is that on the 25th, we could finish that one hour we have left on the finance study with the witnesses that we had to just let go, and we could then go in camera for the second hour, do committee business and talk about Ms. Collins' study.

If you want to make that a two-hour committee business meeting, then we can do that as well, but that takes us up to two o'clock on a Monday. We could do that, and we may get committee business done in half an hour, so it may all be moot in the end.

That's the issue we're talking about. It's whether we have a subcommittee meeting on, say, November 25, or whether we have our witnesses back for one hour and then do one hour of future business, in camera, on the 25th. That's where we are.

Ms. Collins, what are you suggesting?

Laurel Collins NDP Victoria, BC

Mr. Chair, I just have a point of clarification.

My subamendment to the amendment was that we determine the timing of this prestudy on Bill C-73 at the next subcommittee meeting. It wasn't determining when that subcommittee meeting would be. I would actually suggest that we don't have it in lieu of one of our public meeting times but that we add an extra hour to one of our sessions or that we have it on another day. I would leave that to the discretion of the chair.

We have the minister on the Wednesday, as you said—

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

That launches the prestudy.

Laurel Collins NDP Victoria, BC

My subamendment is proposing that we build into this motion that the study would launch for one day, and then the rest of the study would be determined at the next subcommittee meeting, as we normally would do with any of these things and as the Liberals could have done at the last full committee meeting—

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Do we have Ms. Taylor Roy's amendment to the motion in writing? Can we get that?

Leah Taylor Roy Liberal Aurora—Oak Ridges—Richmond Hill, ON

Sure. I can give it to you.

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Conservative

Branden Leslie Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

Could we have all of it circulated to us in writing?

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

We have the original motion.

12:30 p.m.

Conservative

Branden Leslie Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

No, I understand that, but there are two—

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Ms. Taylor Roy is—

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Conservative

Branden Leslie Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

It should be in both official languages, too.

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

—going to send us her amendment to the original motion.

12:30 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Dauphin—Swan River—Neepawa, MB

Then we need Ms. Collins' too.

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Once we get Ms. Taylor Roy's amendment, then Ms. Collins will have to write a subamendment.

Let's just pause for a few minutes.

Thank you.

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Thank you.

Colleagues, you have Ms. Taylor Roy's amendment in front of you and on your screens. The amendment basically changes the motion to read “That this study begin the first meeting following the adoption of this motion”.

Ms. Taylor Roy, do you have any more to say about that?

Leah Taylor Roy Liberal Aurora—Oak Ridges—Richmond Hill, ON

Yes. When it was sent over, there was an “s” added—“That this study begin the first meetings”. It should be “meeting”.

Thank you.

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Yes, that's a typo. Okay, thank you.

Ms. Collins, do you have a subamendment?

Laurel Collins NDP Victoria, BC

I do.

It is that it read, “That the first hour of this study”, so the added words are the four words “the first hour of” between “That” and “this”. It would read, “That the first hour of this study begin the first meeting following the adoption of this motion,” and then my—

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Could you go a little slower, please? Can I see what you're sending?

Okay, we're going to send this around electronically so that we can all see it. It should be coming any minute now.

Has everyone received it? Apparently there's an edit, so it'll take a few extra minutes.

Laurel Collins NDP Victoria, BC

Okay. Maybe I'll quickly reply to the whole....

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

That's the original amendment. What's the edit? Is it “and that the timing of the remaining meetings...be determined”? That's not the most recent that has to be edited, is it?

Let's pause for a second.