I have a point of order, Mr. Chair. I'm sorry about that, Mr. Mazier.
Just a couple of minutes ago, my honourable colleague Mr. Deltell suggested that we not call former members of Parliament or witnesses liars, and I tend to agree, even if they admit to lying or walk back their comments in a committee meeting. However, then Mr. Mazier just did the exact same thing, so do the Conservatives want to accuse former members of Parliament of lying or do they not? It's really up to them.