Evidence of meeting #131 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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MPs speaking

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Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Natalie Jeanneault

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Yes. Your hand is up, but now Mr. van Koeverden is—

Laurel Collins NDP Victoria, BC

My hand is up on Mr. van Koeverden's motion.

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Okay.

5:50 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Dauphin—Swan River—Neepawa, MB

Can we read that back? What does that motion look like now?

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

He's going to read it.

Go ahead, Mr. van Koeverden.

Adam van Koeverden Liberal Milton, ON

The motion reads:

That this committee undertake a prestudy on Bill C-73, an act respecting transparency and accountability in relation to certain commitments Canada has made under the Convention on Biological Diversity; that to this end, the committee hold a minimum of five meetings;

(1) that this study begin on November 27;

(2) that the committee invite the Minister of Environment and officials from Environment and Climate Change Canada on November 27, 2024; and

(3) that the committee complete its sustainable finance study on November 25 with a two-hour meeting.

5:50 p.m.

Conservative

Branden Leslie Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair. I would be curious to know, perhaps from the clerk or from your experience, Mr. Chair, the substantial difference between the motion that was just put before us and the motion on which debate was just adjourned. Is there a substantial enough difference? Yes, there are a number of different paragraphs. There is an (a), (b) and (c), but to me, the general thrust of that is almost identical, with a small prescription.

I would look to previous decisions from chairs, or perhaps the clerk could advise if there is a substantial difference between the motion on which debate was just adjourned seconds ago and the one that was just proposed.

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

The one that was just proposed also speaks about the sustainable finance study.

Branden Leslie Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

Is that substantial?

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

I consider it to be substantial.

5:50 p.m.

Conservative

Gérard Deltell Conservative Louis-Saint-Laurent, QC

Mr. Chair, we would like to have the motion in both official languages.

In addition, we would like the committee to take a short break.

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Okay.

Mr. van Koeverden, do you have that electronically in both languages?

Adam van Koeverden Liberal Milton, ON

I do, and I also have a point of order, if that's okay.

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Go ahead with your point of order. Then we're going to pause, and you can give it to the clerk so she can distribute it to everybody.

Adam van Koeverden Liberal Milton, ON

It's just a point of order that because we didn't vote on the previous motion, I don't think Mr. Leslie's concerns apply. We adjourned debate on it, and it wasn't voted down or up.

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

That sounds like it makes sense, but anyway, I consider it to be substantially different.

We're going to pause for a few minutes.

Yes, Ms. Collins.

Laurel Collins NDP Victoria, BC

Chair, I have a point of order. I just wanted to tell you that I have an amendment that I'm sending to the clerk as well. It will be in both official languages. Perhaps we could send it out. I'll be moving it once Mr. van Koeverden is done speaking.

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Okay, thank you.

Adam van Koeverden Liberal Milton, ON

Mr. Chair, but I'm still....

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

It's just a pause.

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Mr. van Koeverden, could you speak to your motion?

Adam van Koeverden Liberal Milton, ON

Certainly, Mr. Chair.

Bill C-73 is an act respecting transparency and accountability in relation to certain commitments Canada has made under the Convention on Biological Diversity. Canada is—

5:55 p.m.

Conservative

Branden Leslie Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

I have a point of order, Chair.

I'm confused because I thought transparency would include the minister making his maiden speech in Parliament first.

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

That's not a point of order; it's a thought.

5:55 p.m.

Conservative

Branden Leslie Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

I'm sorry. I apologize. I have many.