Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
Mr. Sauvé, I will reiterate that I am in support of the amendment you made and Ms. Pauzé's position. The study we have been doing on sustainable finance is very important, and I believe we should finish it. Aligning our finance with our climate goals is part of how we can meet our emissions targets.
What I tried to do in my subamendment was to not change the study we are doing but to add to it so that it can be positive and so that we can look at other ways in which we could, in fact, meet our climate targets. After looking at the commissioner's report, we're acknowledging that there are shortfalls. We're not denying that.
Ms. Collins, to your point, we have the report from the commissioner of the environment and sustainable development. We know that there are shortfalls. We know that there are issues. We want to address those just as well. I think you have some great ideas to add to what we can do.
I welcome your comments on the cap on pollution. We're in a bit of a quandary because of the provincial jurisdiction on this. I would love to hear from you and from members from the Conservative Party on the ways in which we can actually put this in place in such a way that it's not interpreted to be a cap on production and therefore enters provincial jurisdiction. I think it would be a really fruitful discussion.
I'm not saying that we not look at what the commissioner of the environment and sustainable development has said. I'm saying that we look at it, but let's make this useful and not just criticize. Let's talk about how we actually solve those problems. That's what we're here to do. We're here to work collectively to make this a better place.
I want to clarify as well, Ms. Collins, a point you raised earlier on this subamendment with regard to my comment on the NDP now not supporting the price on pollution program. It is factual that the NDP did reverse their position on making all polluters pay by saying that you do not want the price on pollution, or the carbon levy, to be applied to consumers, so you have changed that position. I'm not making something up. I was simply saying that you have changed your position on that.
I know that on biodiversity we're both concerned. We know that biodiversity goes hand in hand with climate change. I think Mr. van Koeverden's amendment to include a reference to that, which hopefully we'll get to and at some point be looking at, is also important. I'm putting this forward because I want us to be focused on results and not just on politics and laying blame. If the Conservatives are truly concerned with the Government of Canada's position on reaching our emissions targets, I am sure they would want to work with us to come up with solutions.
I know that's what the NDP does want and what the Bloc wants. I know that there are members of the Conservative Party who also want that. Let's use our time wisely to actually look at what's happening in that report. We've all seen it. We can all read it. We've seen that and we all accept it, but let's also move forward and actually make real progress, especially for the young people of Canada who desperately want to see us address this issue.
I'd appeal to you that I'm not trying, in any way, to change the focus to some shiny new target or to do whatever Mr. Leslie said. I'm actually trying to say that we should use our time, if we're going to focus on this, to move forward and find solutions. I think all of us have good ideas. I would welcome them.
Thank you.