I appreciate that. I don't want to cut you off, but I was talking about the oil sands specifically.
We know the emissions intensity for oil sands specifically has actually increased. It hasn't decreased. They've improved the efficiency of other oil and gas products, but oil sands bitumen production has become more emissions-intensive. We've had oil and gas CEOs here to corroborate that, and they say it's because the products are farther away from their refining facilities.
To be clear, though—and I could broaden my question to include the department—is it possible to achieve our targets of lowering our emissions, mitigating climate change, playing a strong leadership role in the world and demonstrating that oil- and gas-producing nations can be leaders on the world stage in taking climate action if the Alberta government and the oil sands sector are not willing to reduce their emissions?
They're setting targets that allow them to have a 15% increase from here on out.