Yes, of course. I've been to Second Marsh, McLaughlin Bay, Darlington and all of the areas along there. I'm so happy to have a little plug for those beautiful natural areas in Hansard today.
Yes, for some of the building blocks of the economy—steel, cement, lumber and so on—the transition isn't going to be to stop building buildings or roads and so on. Unlike, say, the coal phase-out, in which you're actually ceasing to use coal as an energy source and there's a shutdown of a coal plant or a thermal coal mine, I'd expect that cement will continue to be produced. The question will be as to what fuel sources, in terms of fuel switching, can be used with a lower environmental footprint in that industry.
I would expect that there will be a variety of different transitions, but they won't all be like a phase-out, with a plant shutting down and so on. Some of them will be retrofitting and changing. That actually happened in one sense with some of the coal plants in Alberta moving to natural gas, for example, or the electrification of a steel plant in Ontario, not in your riding but close by, down by Hamilton. That will be happening.