We're going to have to stop there, unfortunately.
Thank you to all of our witnesses for some very interesting answers around some very interesting issues. I know I learned a lot from the discussion. I'm sure the same goes for other members.
We're going to have to break now, because we go in camera.
This is to the members: The link to the in camera Zoom meeting is in the original Zoom email. I imagine that's clear enough. We'll disconnect now, then reconnect. We'll see you all again in a couple of minutes.
Thanks again to our witnesses. We appreciated having you tonight.
[Proceedings continue in camera]