I'll give you a direct example.
There's a big argument about old-growth forestry in B.C. right now. The B.C. government took back some of the volume that was being cut, but at the same time they transferred a lot of that volume for old-growth logging over to first nations. That's a shield.
What also happens a lot is what happened here in B.C. with my band, where NGOs and third parties came in under the guise of helping first nations address their interests. As soon as some sort of economic development project was shut down, that NGO left town. Some of these NGOs put in millions of dollars and have hundreds of staff. They're not associated with poverty. That's what we experienced.
In fact, one idea behind LNG was to kick out all those NGOs and third parties and think about the region alone and about first nations people. If you want an example of what this means for a first nations community and the region, come visit Kitimat. Come and visit the $40-billion LNG Canada. Think about the council being independent, single moms being independent and those people who are getting out of prison being independent.
Guess what. We have no help lines for suicide. In my village, we used to be soaked in alcohol, but house parties are out of the question now. It doesn't exist. This is not because of any council directive or government program. It was the simple matter of including first nations in the economy. It turned our band around a hundred per cent. A lot of first nations in our area did the same thing.