Thank you, Mr. Chair, and to all of our excellent witnesses today.
I have two questions, one for Mr. Masterson and Ms. Morrison, and the other for the Manitoba Eco-Network, Ms. Fast. If you could just keep to a couple of minutes, I'd appreciate it. I'd like to get to my Manitoba colleagues. I have a little bit of a bias there.
Mr. Kurek mentioned that you had a joint submission with some of the environmental groups, which, frankly, was very heartening to see. I'm aware of some of the behind-the-scenes activities on Bill C-28, which, for the most part, I think everyone involved in the debate was pretty happy with. We're dealing right now with amendments that have come from the Senate.
I wonder if you have made the same kinds of efforts, and environmental groups have made the same kinds of efforts, to come together on issues like confidential business information to see what might be possible. There's obviously a confidence gap. On the other hand, we want innovation. We want to protect IP. We want those goals. We want public confidence. We want innovation.
Is there a third way, as I was suggesting the other day, or full stop are you...?