Okay.
I would like to ask a question about the meetings with the fossil fuel lobby groups.
The Minister wasn't the only person present at the numerous meetings held. In fact, there is an organization that records this. For example, the famous Pathways Alliance—that is generally acknowledged to be full-time greenwashing—had 16 meetings in September alone. The Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers had 14 meetings, and the Pembina Pipeline Corporation had 14 meetings.
The Minister of the Environment and Climate Change met with those lobby groups nine times, and in December there were again a lot of meetings, the equivalent of five times a day. People from the department were present at those meetings. Note that no one is obliged to meet with these lobbyists.
Of course, we will never know what happens at these meetings, but does it not influence the policies proposed by the government?