Evidence of meeting #60 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was travel.

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Alison Clegg  Analyst

4:20 p.m.

A voice

I thought it was unanimous.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Is it unanimous?

4:20 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Do we need to do the roll—

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

Damien Kurek Conservative Battle River—Crowfoot, AB

Chair, because there have been a few times when we've passed things without having.... Give us a few seconds so that somebody can talk, or, if you wouldn't mind, allow us a moment to ensure that we're all on the same page in both official languages.

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

Gérard Deltell Conservative Louis-Saint-Laurent, QC

I just want to point out something very minor in the French version, Mr. Chair. In the French version, paragraph (c) says “qu'elles soient télévisées”. It's understood that it refers to the meetings. In the English version, it says “that these meetings”. In other words, the English version specifies that we are talking about the meetings, unlike the French version. What's meant in the French is understood, but since we're looking at the versions, we might as well be specific and say “que les réunions soient télévisées”. That said, I won't hold out for the change.

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

We don't need a motion to fix things like spelling.

I'm going to read the English version of the amended motion first, and we'll make any minor changes as needed.

It reads, “That pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the committee a) invite the CEO of Imperial Oil and the Alberta Energy Regulator for a two-hour meeting in October 2023, to provide this Committee with updates on what steps they took since April 2023, to address the issues resulting from the Kearl tailings pond leak....”

We're adding “Kearl” and taking the “s” from “ponds” to put it onto “tailings”.

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

Greg McLean Conservative Calgary Centre, AB

To be accurate, Mr. Chair, it's “seepage and spill”, not “leak”. There was one spill and there was.... Seepage was the first indication.

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

You want to change “leak” to “seepage and spill”. Is that it? Okay.

Is there unanimous consent?

4:20 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Yes, okay. Good.

Next, it reads “b) that during the meetings, Imperial Oil and the Alberta Energy Regulator provide the committee with the documents that support the actions they took; c) that these meetings be televised and that the evidence gathered during these meetings be taken into consideration during the study of Freshwater”.

I don't think “freshwater” needs a capital “f”.

Mr. Deltell, you seemed to say earlier that we needed to add something to the English version.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Gérard Deltell Conservative Louis-Saint-Laurent, QC

No, the French version.

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

All right.

Is everyone fine with the English version?

4:25 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

We have unanimous agreement on the English version.

Now I'll read the French version:

Que, conformément à l'article 108(2) du Règlement, le Comité: a. Invite le PDG de la Compagnie Pétrolière Impériale Ltée et l'Alberta Energy Regulator à une réunion de deux heures en octobre 2023 afin qu'ils fournissent au Comité des mises à jour sur les mesures qu'ils ont prises depuis avril 2023 pour résoudre les problèmes résultant de la...

What did you say? Was it “seepage and leak”?

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Greg McLean Conservative Calgary Centre, AB

It was “spill”.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

It was “seepage and spill”.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Greg McLean Conservative Calgary Centre, AB

The first incident in May of last year was four indications of seepage, and the one in—

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

It's “seepage and spill”.

The French version will no longer refer to “la fuite”. Instead, it will say “déversement” and…. What's the French word for “seepage”?

4:25 p.m.

Alison Clegg Analyst

The word used in the briefing note is “suintement”.

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Did you say “suintement”? I just learned something.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Gérard Deltell Conservative Louis-Saint-Laurent, QC

Me too.

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

In the French version, then, it will say “suintement” and “déversement”. We also have to add the word “Kearl”. It would refer to “bassins de décantation”….

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

Michael McLeod Liberal Northwest Territories, NT

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Yes, go ahead.