Evidence of meeting #85 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was point.
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Conservative
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia
Excuse me, but there is another point of order.
It had better be a point of order.
Conservative
Michael Kram Conservative Regina—Wascana, SK
Yes.
I believe that all statements are to be addressed through the chair. I wonder if Mr. van Koeverden is saying “shame on you” to the chair or who exactly he is referring to when he says that.
Liberal
Adam van Koeverden Liberal Milton, ON
I'll try to reduce the theatrics for Mr. Leslie.
Once again, these Conservatives have decided to disrupt this study twice in two hours. They may not care about the perspective of experts who have come to this committee to testify, since the expertise of these scientists does not necessarily align with the Conservative oil-and-gas-fuelled misinformation campaign that they continue to perpetuate. These disruptions are not only unproductive and undemocratic and—
November 21st, 2023 / 12:50 p.m.
Conservative
Gérard Deltell Conservative Louis-Saint-Laurent, QC
On a point of order, Mr. Chair, are they undemocratic? Can you tell me—
Conservative
Gérard Deltell Conservative Louis-Saint-Laurent, QC
He said “undemocratic”. No, I'm here, Mr. Chair. You and I and everybody here—
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia
People are entitled to say such things, Mr. Deltell. You know that...
Conservative
Gérard Deltell Conservative Louis-Saint-Laurent, QC
This is democracy moving. Everybody can use it as they want to, but the point is that my team is not undemocratic.
Conservative
Gérard Deltell Conservative Louis-Saint-Laurent, QC
I'm sorry, but I'm speaking. My team is not undemocratic.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia
I understand.
Mr. van Koeverden, I am giving you the floor again.
Liberal
Adam van Koeverden Liberal Milton, ON
These disruptions are not just unproductive, undemocratic and intentionally theatrical; they're also rude and a waste of our resources as a committee and of the valuable time of our expert panels.
This is actually an abuse of our privileges and rights as elected people. We have an obligation to utilize these privileges in an ethical and democratic manner. This committee is not a personal theatre, and shame on those who use it as such. For that reason, I implore my Conservative colleagues to respect this committee.
I move to adjourn debate until we get to committee business, which is the appropriate time for these types of motions.
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia
Okay. You move to adjourn debate.
It's a dilatory motion, and we're going to have a vote.
(Motion agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4)
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia
Colleagues, there are barely four minutes left, since we had agreed to end the meeting at 1:00. Does someone want to move a motion to adjourn the meeting, given that we have no time left?
Mr. Longfield, go ahead.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia
You are moving to adjourn the meeting. Can we put that to a vote?
NDP
Taylor Bachrach NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC
Mr. Chair, didn't we vote at the very beginning of the meeting to adjourn at 12:50?
