I find all of this very interesting, because if you talk to someone working in a retail store, a convenience store, or it could be anyplace—I've given the example of a dry cleaner who gets lists and all kinds of personal information about people—the worst that can happen to those people, if they're ever found out, and I'm not convinced that some of them can even be found out, is that the Privacy Commissioner can release their name. Whether it's a big corporation or whether it's the local dry cleaner, that's all that can happen to them, which most of the witnesses who have come before us have said is very serious, but in all your cases, including the law society, you can no longer practise.
So I guess I'm asking you to go beyond your professions. You stipulate, or your associations or your colleges stipulate, penalties. The evidence that has seemed to come forward is that the worst penalty that you can have, other than going to court, I suppose, in some tort matter or contract matter, is to have your name released. That's it.
Can anybody comment on that?