I would say it is frequently happening. I'm sure Ann will be able to confirm that, being closer to the company front, where it does happen.
Our argument is that they will have the ability to access that kind of information through the court processes. Once it's in litigation, there are procedures in place to protect both parties. They were designed over years and years of courts analyzing these kinds of issues.
To override these civil procedures that are currently in place, because a request has been advanced under PIPEDA, strikes us to be—