I put this to you. You cannot be very committed to ATI reform, because my experience has always been that if you want to stall something you study it to death. These issues have been studied to death. If you really were sincere about ATI reform, you would bring in a bill, imperfect as it may be, because text-based discussions are the best way that I have ever found to deal with complicated issues.
So I put it to you, Minister, that what you're doing, asking us to again study this to death, with no commitment as to what this government will do when it comes out of this committee, with no power in this committee to bring in a bill, means that your commitment to ATI reform is, at best, very, very weak.