There were no formal programs. This began in 2003. As a matter of fact, for a brief time, while I was interim Privacy Commissioner, I enjoined with then Commissioner Reid in supporting this program, and my successor there followed through on it.
It's a new program. It's offered online. It has five modules, I believe, that are needed for certification, and we just had some 40 students write their exams in our office a few weekends ago. I think there are more than 500 graduates of the program now across the country.
Tying into what Mr. Vincent was saying when he was asking me if there was something I wanted to change in the law, this is a dimension of it. I said in my remarks that I don't have an education mandate, but I think, like the Privacy Commissioner, that we should be considering an education and training mandate for access to make it better understood, and hopefully, to reduce complaints.