I think there is certainly a pattern of concealing evidence about detainees and their treatment that runs up to concealing torture. It is true outside the access to information context. I don't want to get into it at length, because of the legitimate restraint that our chair has.
But outside this context, it is true that in the Federal Court judicial review filed by Amnesty International and the B.C. Civil Liberties Association, I have seen the government assert more national security exemptions than in any other litigation I have ever been close to. It is unparalleled, in my experience. And that is certainly true because a lot of what is being called national security before the courts process isn't at all national security; it's national embarrassment, for which section 38 of the Canada Evidence Act is being pressed into rough and inappropriate service.
So there is a pattern of concealment, I think, that goes beyond the access to information context.