Thank you, Chair.
I have a question for Karen. It was useful dealing with an example like Jim did, with his analogy of the board member, etc. I have an example that I'd like to ask on which of these categories of breaches that would fall under, under penalties.
We have information, and I think it's filed as a complaint with your office, that a former minister, within three months of ceasing to be an MP, was in fact lobbying on behalf of Indian reserves in northern Ontario and northern Manitoba, a former minister of Indian affairs. Were that proven to be true, and if the allegations proved to be borne out, which of the breaches would that be? Would that be a breach of the Lobbyists Registration Act or the lobbyists code of conduct?