John Crosbie would never meet with Karlheinz Schreiber. I've told you what Harry Swain said about Karlheinz. And yet Karlheinz Schreiber had this access to the Prime Minister's Office to the point where I met with him, had this access to the Privy Council Office to the point where Paul Tellier met with him. There weren't a lot of Canadians who paid a courtesy call at Harrington Lake when Mr. Mulroney was leaving government.
On February 5th, 2008. See this statement in context.