Yes. I was out of the country, and when I came back—I think it was probably in The Globe and Mail, because it has the most comprehensive coverage in the country—I saw this article saying that Mr. Lalonde and Mr. MacKay had posted bond for Mr. Schreiber. So it must have been around 1997 or 1998.
I e-mailed Lowell Murray. I had worked very closely with Lowell Murray. He was the Minister of State for Federal-Provincial Relations during the period when we did Meech Lake, so I had worked with Lowell Murray and I have a tremendous amount of respect for him. I e-mailed him and said, “What gives? I thought that project was dead.” He said, “Oh, no, no.” I'm almost imitating Lowell Murray; those of you who know him can hear him. “Oh, no, no, no. It kept coming back.” He said even Hughie had dealt with it.
When I say Hughie had dealt with it, I'm not suggesting any impropriety on Mr. Segal's part. My understanding is that it did come back and that Mr. Segal gave it the back of his hand too. That was when Mr. Corbeil.... But that was before Karlheinz Schreiber went to do his courtesy call at Harrington Lake at the end of the Mulroney period, so it wasn't even dead after Mr. Segal disposed of it.