Evidence of meeting #15 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 39th Parliament, 2nd session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was schreiber.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo
Mr. Alford, did you hear Ms. Lavallée's question?
Can you hear me now, sir?
Bloc
Carole Lavallée Bloc Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC
You told us that you knew about all of the people working as lobbyists on the Bear Head project in Canada, so can you explain why, last week, Mr. Schreiber publicly stated that the mandate he gave Mr. Mulroney had nothing to do with international representations, just representations in Canada?
As an Individual
I have no knowledge of that. I'm sorry, I can't explain someone else's comment.
Bloc
Carole Lavallée Bloc Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC
But it was Mr. Schreiber, with whom you worked closely.
As an Individual
Yes, of course. Mr. Schreiber was also at the centre of the Bear Head initiative.
Bloc
Carole Lavallée Bloc Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC
So you are telling me that Mr. Mulroney did not make any representations for Bear Head in Canada? Can you say this beyond a shadow of a doubt?
NDP
Pat Martin NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB
Thank you.
Mr. Alford, what relationship did Fred Doucet have with GCI? I know his brother was a principal director of GCI, but what relationship did Fred Doucet have with the company?
NDP
Pat Martin NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB
Did he arrange meetings for GCI in his job as chief of staff or adviser to Brian Mulroney?
NDP
Pat Martin NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB
It seems GCI had a great deal of dealings with the Mulroney administration. It must have done very well during those years. You say you did not see the balance sheets of the company in your capacity as vice-president or president.
As an Individual
The company was owned by its partners. Those were their balance sheets.
NDP
Pat Martin NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB
You say that Airbus was not a client of GCI. Was Airbus a client of Frank Moores?
NDP
Pat Martin NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB
So the large commissions per airplane paid out by Airbus--the illegal commissions--you don't believe went to Frank Moores or GCI?
NDP
Pat Martin NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB
What was your main source of revenue in those days? Who were your productive clients? Who was on your A-list of clients at the time?
As an Individual
Well, I'm sure you don't expect me to detail a list of clients, but suffice it to say that for any project in Canada that would have an interest in it, people who would wish to position themselves in bidding and communicating their own proposals within the environment of Ottawa would be interested, and so we had projects that were, on behalf of engineering firms, pursuing opportunity within CIDA; on behalf of energy firms, monitoring energy policy development; on behalf of construction firms, looking for the opportunity to do privatization projects in airports. That was the type of client we represented. We typically represented some, and we had four or five competitors that would be representing their competitors in each case.