Evidence of meeting #16 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was money.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Liberal
Brian Murphy Liberal Moncton—Riverview—Dieppe, NB
When this account was set up and the initials BM were beside it, at that time did you know the name of the wife of Mr. Frank Moores?
As an Individual
No. I just put BM instead of Brian Mulroney, but it's my writing, and I didn't even know that the wife had the same initials.
Liberal
Brian Murphy Liberal Moncton—Riverview—Dieppe, NB
You put BM because....? You put that down to signify that it was Brian Mulroney?
Liberal
Brian Murphy Liberal Moncton—Riverview—Dieppe, NB
Mr. Schreiber was the sole owner of IAL, you said, but he was not on the board. Is that what you said?
Liberal
As an Individual
Mr. Frick was, because by law you have to have a person who is a resident and a citizen of Liechtenstein. For each company in Liechtenstein it is compulsory that you have one person there.
Liberal
Liberal
Brian Murphy Liberal Moncton—Riverview—Dieppe, NB
Fair enough.
Were there any trustees or shareholders of that company?
Liberal
Brian Murphy Liberal Moncton—Riverview—Dieppe, NB
Okay.
There's a company called Bitucan Holdings Ltd. Are you aware of that company?
Liberal
Liberal
Brian Murphy Liberal Moncton—Riverview—Dieppe, NB
Finally, Mr. Pelossi, you were aware then that Fred Doucet and Frank Moores were hired to lobby on behalf of Bitucan between 1989 and 1993.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo
Colleagues, the clerk has circulated the room. We're going to have one more round. Two of the parties want to participate and two don't, but that may change as we go.
I'm going to go to the third round, and it'll be Liberal, Conservative, Bloc, Conservative, NDP, Liberal, Conservative. That is the order as I've circulated the form to you. We're going to be starting with Mr. Thibault.
As you're thinking about that, I'd like to ask you, Mr. Pelossi, to help us with an issue here. One of the problems we've had is whether the payments to Mr. Mulroney were $100,000 or $75,000 on three different occasions. I understand that there was an expenditure withholding tax in Germany. It was suggested to me that it was 25%. Are you familiar with that?
As an Individual
No, it had nothing to do with that, because the accounts were in Switzerland.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo
With regard to Bitucan, which is Mr. Schreiber's company in Calgary, there is another one that's called Bayerische Bitumen-Chemie. Are you familiar with that one?