Evidence of meeting #16 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was money.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Giorgio Pelossi  As an Individual
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Erica Pereira

9:10 a.m.

As an Individual

Giorgio Pelossi

I would say he told me the people he would probably give the money to, as I know now.

Robert Thibault Liberal West Nova, NS

So this is money that he had available.

9:10 a.m.

As an Individual

Robert Thibault Liberal West Nova, NS

Do you know a Mr. Frank Moores?

9:10 a.m.

As an Individual

Giorgio Pelossi

Yes, very well.

Robert Thibault Liberal West Nova, NS

Did you accompany Mr. Moores to a bank to open two accounts?

9:10 a.m.

As an Individual

Robert Thibault Liberal West Nova, NS

Was the password to open one of those accounts “Devon”, D-e-v-o-n?

9:10 a.m.

As an Individual

Robert Thibault Liberal West Nova, NS

According to your understanding, who was that account for?

9:10 a.m.

As an Individual

Giorgio Pelossi

It was for Brian Mulroney.

Robert Thibault Liberal West Nova, NS

When the initials appear as “BM” along with that account, that would mean Brian Mulroney?

9:15 a.m.

As an Individual

Giorgio Pelossi

Yes, I wrote myself on my.... I have it here.

I have the card of the guy who was in charge at the bank, and I wrote the name and the number of the account, and on the top, I wrote with my handwriting, “F. Moore” and “BM”, which means Brian Mulroney.

Robert Thibault Liberal West Nova, NS

The other account, was it for Frank Moores?

9:15 a.m.

As an Individual

Robert Thibault Liberal West Nova, NS

Did you yourself ever transfer or know of a transfer of money into those two accounts?

9:15 a.m.

As an Individual

Giorgio Pelossi

No. All the money we received in the company, IAL, I transferred to Mr. Schreiber's account in Zurich, in the same bank, and he distributed the money, but I never saw it.

Robert Thibault Liberal West Nova, NS

Is that the account we know as Frankfurt, the account you transferred it to?

9:15 a.m.

As an Individual

Giorgio Pelossi

No. I'll tell you what I know now, I didn't know at that time. But I transferred all the money to a main account, and the number is 18679, rubric IAL, and it was the main account of Mr. Schreiber. Then he set up all these subaccounts. I didn't know at that time that he had the subaccounts. I knew later on, during the years.

Robert Thibault Liberal West Nova, NS

Did you personally get to know where those moneys came from through your professional capacity, or only through what you saw in the media?

9:15 a.m.

As an Individual

Giorgio Pelossi

I don't understand the question.

Robert Thibault Liberal West Nova, NS

Was the money from the main account of Mr. Schreiber distributed to other accounts? Mr. Schreiber told us of the Britan account, for example. We know of the Marc account. What is your knowledge of these accounts? How did you come to know, from your professional association with Mr. Schreiber or through the media?

9:15 a.m.

As an Individual

Giorgio Pelossi

No, from the media and from the prosecutor in Germany sometimes, because they asked me about these accounts.

Robert Thibault Liberal West Nova, NS

Did you ever meet a Mr. Fred Doucet or have discussions with Mr. Fred Doucet?

Giorgio Pelossi

I think I met him once, yes, in the offices of GCI.