Evidence of meeting #16 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was money.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Giorgio Pelossi  As an Individual
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Erica Pereira

Robert Thibault Liberal West Nova, NS

Could it be possible that Mr. Moores was pulling a dirty one on Mr. Schreiber, saying that he was giving money to Mr. Mulroney, that he would be receiving money for Mr. Mulroney, and keeping that money for himself?

10:45 a.m.

As an Individual

Giorgio Pelossi

It's possible. I can't say anything, but it's possible, yes.

Robert Thibault Liberal West Nova, NS

You don't know of any money ever being transferred into that account, is that correct? You have stated that.

10:45 a.m.

As an Individual

Robert Thibault Liberal West Nova, NS

Do you know that none ever was?

10:45 a.m.

As an Individual

Giorgio Pelossi

I don't know.

Robert Thibault Liberal West Nova, NS

You don't know. You lost track of that account after that time.

10:45 a.m.

As an Individual

Giorgio Pelossi

I didn't even know that this account was set up, you see.

Robert Thibault Liberal West Nova, NS

Why was it necessary for you to be present to set up those accounts?

10:45 a.m.

As an Individual

Giorgio Pelossi

It was Schreiber who asked me to be present. I went specially from Lugano to Zurich on that day only for this, to meet Mr. Mulroney. We had lunch together. After lunch, at two o'clock, we went to the bank.

Robert Thibault Liberal West Nova, NS

You met with Mr. Mulroney?

10:45 a.m.

As an Individual

Giorgio Pelossi

Otherwise there was no reason. Mr. Schreiber invited me and they said, “You know Mr. Moores, and you should know that he has the Airbus account, in any case”. You see?

At that time we didn't know if we would do business with Airbus or not. In 1986 we didn't know.

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

Ms. Lavallée.

Carole Lavallée Bloc Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC

Mr. Pelossi, I would like to go back to the question where we left off a little earlier. We were talking about the work that Frank Moores reportedly did to warrant a commission of 25%. You said that he sat on the board of directors at Air Canada.

In your opinion, was it really clear that Frank Moores was going to sit on the board of directors at Air Canada to facilitate the purchase of aircraft from Airbus? For you, was that very clear?

10:45 a.m.

As an Individual

Giorgio Pelossi

That was clear, yes.

Carole Lavallée Bloc Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC

So Mr. Frank Moores was appointed to the position by Brian Mulroney, as you know, to facilitate the purchase of aircraft from Airbus. Is that correct?

10:45 a.m.

As an Individual

Carole Lavallée Bloc Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC

You are aware that he did not stay there very long, because of conflicts of interest.

10:45 a.m.

As an Individual

Giorgio Pelossi

Yes, I know that six months later, he left the...

Carole Lavallée Bloc Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC

Yes. Did Mr. Moores do anything else to warrant a commission of 25%?

Giorgio Pelossi

I don't know.

Carole Lavallée Bloc Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC

You don't know?

10:45 a.m.

As an Individual

Giorgio Pelossi

I don't know what he did.

Carole Lavallée Bloc Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC

You know that he was president of GCI, don't you?

10:50 a.m.

As an Individual