Evidence of meeting #16 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was money.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Bloc
Carole Lavallée Bloc Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC
Moreover, you went there with Mr. Schreiber. Did you make any payments? Did one of Mr. Schreiber's companies make any payments to GCI?
As an Individual
Not directly. I am only aware of payments by MBB or Messerschmitt, in the case of the helicopters. Otherwise, I don't know.
Bloc
As an Individual
At this time, yes, but I believe that MBB was independent at that time. At any rate, the company was in Bavaria, and Mr. Strauss had influence there. I believe that he was the MBB majority shareholder in Bavaria.
Bloc
Carole Lavallée Bloc Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC
You said earlier that MBB had paid retainers. I think we call that “provisions” in French.
Bloc
Carole Lavallée Bloc Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC
You said that when the Airbus commission began, the MBB retainers...
As an Individual
That related only to the helicopters. It had nothing to do with Airbus.
Bloc
Carole Lavallée Bloc Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC
In your view, could Frank Moores' commissions have been paid to GCI?
Bloc
Carole Lavallée Bloc Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC
You have no idea, nor do you know if the money from the secret commissions that we were talking about earlier, the $4.5 million, could have transited through GCI.
Have you ever met Mr. Mulroney?
Bloc
Carole Lavallée Bloc Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC
Apart from Frank Moores, who else at GCI have you met?
As an Individual
I don't remember, but I met four or five people the day I went there. I only went there once.
Bloc
As an Individual
There were two lawyers who were brothers. I no longer remember if... Does Frank Doucet have a brother who is also a lawyer?
Bloc
Bloc
Carole Lavallée Bloc Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC
Yes, Fred Doucet has a brother whose name is Gérald Doucet, I believe. They call him Gerry.
As an Individual
I remember that there were two brothers and that they were both lawyers. So, it was them.
Bloc
Carole Lavallée Bloc Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC
Gerry Doucet was a GCI shareholder. So, they were there. And your meeting with them was strictly social in nature? It was not a business meeting?