Evidence of meeting #16 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was money.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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MPs speaking

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Giorgio Pelossi  As an Individual
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Erica Pereira

9:20 a.m.

As an Individual

Giorgio Pelossi

Yes, it is better than my English.

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

That is great. The same goes for me. Thank you.

Mr. Pelossi, you started out speaking about your statement to the RCMP. You were surprised that we had not received it, were you not?

9:20 a.m.

As an Individual

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

Were some officers taking notes when you made your statement to the RCMP?

Giorgio Pelossi

They taped it on a videocassette. The whole thing is recorded.

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

They recorded the whole thing. Did you receive a transcript of it?

9:20 a.m.

As an Individual

Giorgio Pelossi

No, I have never seen it, but I know that the entire interview was recorded.

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

I see. In your opinion, was the statement true?

9:20 a.m.

As an Individual

Giorgio Pelossi

Yes. As I said to the committee chair at the outset, I had to take a... What is it called?

An hon. member

A lie detector test.

9:20 a.m.

As an Individual

Giorgio Pelossi

...a test to determine whether I was telling the truth. I forget the name of the device, but they came to Milan a few months later for this purpose and they gave me this test, on which I did very well.

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

It is called a polygraph.

9:20 a.m.

As an Individual

Giorgio Pelossi

Yes, that is right. I had forgotten the name of it.

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

You had hoped we would see your statement.

9:20 a.m.

As an Individual

Giorgio Pelossi

Yes, for the simple reason that I gave it in 1996, 12 years ago. I am sure you will appreciate that it is much more difficult for me now to remember all the dates and details. But at the time of the statement, I had all the documents available to me. So the information was much more specific than anything I can say today.

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

If we need it your authorization to see the statement, would you be prepared to give that to us now?

9:20 a.m.

As an Individual

Giorgio Pelossi

Yes, I will give you that authorization. I have done so in writing to the clerk. I received an e-mail, and I wrote back giving my authorization.

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

Very well. Given that, this is not a secret to the RCMP. That is the testimony you would have liked to have given this morning in order to be more specific. Is that correct?

9:20 a.m.

As an Individual

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

Do we have that statement, Mr. Chair?

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

I can indicate that we did receive an affirmation from Mr. Pelossi that he would give his authorization for it to be viewed. The request was turned down by the RCMP. The reasons were only oral, and it sounded like it was part of their materials from their investigation, which may be opened up in the future, and they wouldn't want to compromise their case or their evidence.

We can have the discussion this afternoon at our in camera meeting after we see Stevie Cameron, if that's acceptable to the members.

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

I understand, Mr. Pelossi, that you are the person who wrote a contract or who was involved in writing a contract between IAL and Airbus?

9:20 a.m.

As an Individual

Giorgio Pelossi

Yes, that is the contract was written by Airbus and approved by Mr. Schreiber. I signed it myself, along with the president of Airbus at the time.

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

This contract...

9:20 a.m.

As an Individual

Giorgio Pelossi

A lawyer in Zurich has a single copy of it, and it was to remain secret. All I had was an unsigned copy.