Evidence of meeting #16 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was money.
A recording is available from Parliament.
As an Individual
The only thing I knew was that he gave some money to a Thyssen manager, but I have no knowledge of when and how much he distributed in Canada.
NDP
Pat Martin NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB
Mr. Pelossi, some skeptics say you're giving this testimony so freely today as a way to get revenge against Karlheinz Schreiber, that your testimony today will either convince Canadians that Canadian politicians have a terrible paucity of ethics, or it will put Karlheinz Schreiber back on a plane to Germany to sit in jail for the rest of his life.
What do you say to accusations that you're motivated by revenge or malice towards Mr. Schreiber?
As an Individual
No, not at all. I am just saying the truth, as I did with the RCMP.
Conservative
David Tilson Conservative Dufferin—Caledon, ON
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Mr. Pelossi, thank you for coming and giving testimony today to the committee.
I've been listening carefully to the answers you've been giving thus far to members of the committee, and I'd like you to tell me whether you agree or disagree with my observation that most of what you know is not within your personal knowledge, that most of what you're telling us has either been told to you by Mr. Schreiber or by the media.
Is that true?
Conservative
David Tilson Conservative Dufferin—Caledon, ON
By Mr. Schreiber. So most of what you're telling us today, Mr. Schreiber informed you of. That's how you came to your conclusions and the information you're giving the committee today?
Conservative
David Tilson Conservative Dufferin—Caledon, ON
Thank you.
Those are my questions.
We're going to continue with Mr. Del Mastro.
Liberal
Conservative
Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Mr. Pelossi, has Mr. Schreiber ever lied to you or lied about you in statements?
Conservative
Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON
Has Mr. Schreiber ever lied to you or lied about you in statements that he's made? Has he ever lied to you? Yes, he has?
Thank you.
As an Individual
When I read his statements in the newspapers, I know that he is lying.
Conservative
Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON
Okay, thank you.
I appreciate that; it's very valuable.
Mr. Pelossi, you testified that you met Mr. Schreiber in the late sixties. You started working for him, and you provided financing in 1972 and were in charge of all his companies outside Germany. Is that correct?
Conservative
Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON
Thank you.
When did you leave International Aircraft Leasing?
Conservative
Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON
It was in July 1991. Okay, thank you.
When did you first start speaking to the media and to police about your knowledge of IAL and Mr. Schreiber's business transactions?
As an Individual
It was in 1994, I think. It was after he refused to make an arrangement with me and after he accused me in Liechtenstein. He made a criminal charge against me, and it was dismissed six months later.
