Evidence of meeting #16 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 39th Parliament, 2nd session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was money.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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Giorgio Pelossi  As an Individual
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Erica Pereira

9:40 a.m.

As an Individual

Giorgio Pelossi

I was present at the bank. Mr. Schreiber and Mr. Moores took me to the bank, and I was there. I had no direct involvement, but I was there and I saw and I know. I took note. Schreiber told me, “Take the numbers in case you need them.”

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The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

Okay, I just wanted to clarify because of the earlier question as to whether you had any direct knowledge or if everything you're testifying to was simply things Mr. Schreiber told you. In this particular matter, you had direct knowledge.

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9:40 a.m.

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Giorgio Pelossi

I was present myself.

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The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

Thank you.

Mr. Murphy, please.

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Brian Murphy Liberal Moncton—Riverview—Dieppe, NB

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Mr. Pelossi, you just said and have said a couple of times, I guess, that you were present when account 8679--those are the first four numbers--was set up.

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9:40 a.m.

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Giorgio Pelossi

I am not sure it was the one set up at that time.

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Brian Murphy Liberal Moncton—Riverview—Dieppe, NB

Sorry, it's 18679.

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Giorgio Pelossi

Yes, probably this account existed before.

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Brian Murphy Liberal Moncton—Riverview—Dieppe, NB

And you were present with Mr. Moores and Mr. Schreiber?

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9:40 a.m.

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Brian Murphy Liberal Moncton—Riverview—Dieppe, NB

And that was some time in 1986?

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9:40 a.m.

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Brian Murphy Liberal Moncton—Riverview—Dieppe, NB

You pointed to a document, and it's very hard--

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9:40 a.m.

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Giorgio Pelossi

In any case, it was in February. I remember it was February 1986 or 1985.

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Brian Murphy Liberal Moncton—Riverview—Dieppe, NB

Right. Time is limited.

You have a document in front of you that you were showing us.

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9:40 a.m.

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Brian Murphy Liberal Moncton—Riverview—Dieppe, NB

We'll get a copy of that document somehow, Mr. Chairman?

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The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

I've got it.

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9:40 a.m.

As an Individual

Giorgio Pelossi

No problem. It's already all over the world in the media. But I can provide you with a copy.

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Brian Murphy Liberal Moncton—Riverview—Dieppe, NB

All right. Fine. The interview you gave with the RCMP, was that sometime after June of 1995? Is that the first time you spoke--

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9:45 a.m.

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Giorgio Pelossi

It was March 1996.

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Brian Murphy Liberal Moncton—Riverview—Dieppe, NB

Their first contact with you, however, was in June of 1995.

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9:45 a.m.

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Giorgio Pelossi

It's possible, yes.

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Brian Murphy Liberal Moncton—Riverview—Dieppe, NB

And you've given your permission to us to ask the RCMP for that interview?

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9:45 a.m.

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