Colleagues, the clerk has circulated the room. We're going to have one more round. Two of the parties want to participate and two don't, but that may change as we go.
I'm going to go to the third round, and it'll be Liberal, Conservative, Bloc, Conservative, NDP, Liberal, Conservative. That is the order as I've circulated the form to you. We're going to be starting with Mr. Thibault.
As you're thinking about that, I'd like to ask you, Mr. Pelossi, to help us with an issue here. One of the problems we've had is whether the payments to Mr. Mulroney were $100,000 or $75,000 on three different occasions. I understand that there was an expenditure withholding tax in Germany. It was suggested to me that it was 25%. Are you familiar with that?