I interviewed her, and she was very upset. Her political career was ruined, as we know. I don't have any information. She told me that. I was not able to prove that, except that we did know that there was a toll on many of the contracts during those years.
You mentioned Glen Kealy. He was one of the prime examples of that. He was asked for 5% back on a contract that he had hoped to get with the government.
I met a number of people who talked about that 5%, or whatever the percentage was, for government contracts. Again and again and again I heard about that.