Exactly.
And the wink over there, is that another one of your...?
Anyway, Ms. Dawson, I really appreciate your thoughts. You did give some indication earlier about the facility you would have to discuss anything. I think you were quite clear on that, so I have no concern about your receiving these questions.
But with regard to members' rights, I simply want everybody who happens to be listening to this to understand that there has been a matter come up with regard to an allegation. It has been ruled on by the committee, and the committee upheld the ruling of the chair, that in that particular case the member, in fact, was not in a position of conflict of interest and should not be excluded from participating in our hearings.
Mr. Tilson, you've only used 42 seconds of your five minutes. Carry on.