I don't understand what Mr. Thibault said, quite frankly. He's either for it or against it, and I still continue to say that by his participating in this debate and voting on these matters, which he's indicated he's going to do, he is tainting the proceedings and is bringing this committee into disrepute on this particular matter.
With respect to the motion, Mr. Chairman, I have trouble with it, and I'll be voting against it because I interpret the motion—and maybe Mr. Martin is on the list after I speak and he will clarify this, and I hope I'm not interpreting it this way, but that's the way the motion seems to be written and submitted--that he's saying he only wants these two people to come. He doesn't want Mr. Johnston. He doesn't want anybody else. He just wants these two people to come and that's all he wants. For that reason--he's shaking his head that he doesn't intend that. Well, I suggest he reword the motion because that's what the motion says. The motions says that we just want these two people to come. We want Mr. Schreiber and Mr. Mulroney to come and let's have a free-for-all, a circus.