Evidence of meeting #40 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was point.
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An hon. member
I still have the floor, right?
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Conservative
Russ Hiebert Conservative South Surrey—White Rock—Cloverdale, BC
This is important, because in your ruling you said that other parties could be political parties or individuals.
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Liberal
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Conservative
Russ Hiebert Conservative South Surrey—White Rock—Cloverdale, BC
A political party can't be a public office holder, yet you said that was one of the categories.
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An hon. member
You did.
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Conservative
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Conservative
Pierre Poilievre Conservative Nepean—Carleton, ON
Are you agreeing that a party cannot be a public office holder? Are you agreeing to that?
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Conservative
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo
Order, please. That's the third time.
Do you want one more?
Listen. I want to try to give you the explanation, because you're very skilled at putting words in people's mouths.
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An hon. member
That's exactly what he said.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo
I will indicate to you that when we say “investigating the actions of the Conservative Party”, the Conservative Party is not a public office holder.
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Some hon. members
Hear, hear!
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo
We understand that, but we are dealing with the ethical practices of the persons named by Elections Canada. Okay?
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Conservative
Russ Hiebert Conservative South Surrey—White Rock—Cloverdale, BC
That's not what it says. It says:
...investigate the actions of the Conservative Party of Canada during the 2006 election.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo
And it says:
...to determine if these actions meet the ethical standards expected of public office holders.
It is with regard to the candidates.
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An hon. member
It says the party, not the candidates.
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An hon. member
It doesn't say “investigate the candidates”; it says “investigate...the Conservative Party of Canada”.
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An hon. member
This is out of order.