Evidence of meeting #41 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was going.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

James Latimer  Procedural Clerk

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

Yes.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

David Tilson Conservative Dufferin—Caledon, ON

I really mean it.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

You're going to mean it this time--okay.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

David Tilson Conservative Dufferin—Caledon, ON

Absolutely.

Mr. Proulx said that actions were carried out by one party and one party alone, namely the Conservative Party of Canada. He has no evidence about that. That's why the amendment and the subamendment, going back--not only the broadening of the proceedings for the amendment and the subamendment--would establish that the Liberal Party of Canada and the Bloc Québécois and the New Democratic Party weren't involved in those things.

That's what you're saying: you're saying that you're different. Well, you know--

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

Don't speak directly, please.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

David Tilson Conservative Dufferin—Caledon, ON

Okay. I'll look at you.

He's a good man to look at, but I'll look at you. I'll look at you. You're absolutely right; I won't look at him any more.

I'm finished, Mr. Chairman.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

Order.

Just a moment. I have something to say.

Mr. Tilson, thank you for your presentation and the cases. I've asked the clerk, and I think I'd like to see these.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

David Tilson Conservative Dufferin—Caledon, ON

It's from April 29, 1977.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

This point about the potential of prejudicing another proceeding also brought back to my memory that while the sponsorship inquiry was going on, the public accounts committee was doing an investigation of the sponsorship. I don't know whether they dealt with it, but I'm going to want to inquire or to find out how they rationalized doing that concurrent with an existing proceeding.

Thank you for the point. I think it's quite relevant.

Go ahead, Mr. Proulx.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

Yes. I wanted to move adjournment, Mr. Chair. It's nearly 5:30. This meeting was scheduled from 3:30 to 5:30.

I move that we adjourn.

5:25 p.m.

An hon. member

But we want to go on.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

Are you moving a motion?

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

Yes. I'm moving adjournment.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

The motion is not debatable; I have to put the question right now.

Do you want a recorded division, colleagues? We will have a recorded division, please.

(Motion agreed to: yeas 11; nays 0)

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

Thank you, colleagues.

We are adjourned until Tuesday, when we are resuming debate on the subamendment.