Order.
Again, we should start off on the correct foot here. Members should only speak when they are recognized by the chair or on a legitimate point of order. This blurting out and having debates or conversations really isn't helpful to the committee, and certainly the translators cannot possibly do their job if more than one person is speaking at a time. So I'm asking all honourable members to hold their comments until they have the floor.
Mr. Van Kesteren, you have the floor.