You just can't.... Surely you have to hear us on these things. Are you just saying this is the way it is; it doesn't matter what you think or what you say; this is the law? That's absolute nonsense, and I would like to have the opportunity to respond to what you just said. You know, surely in the fairness of parliamentary procedure you should hear all arguments.
And this is a very contentious issue, the issue as to whether witnesses.... I mean, otherwise they could say, “Well, I don't know the answer to this, but I'm not going to answer it because it's before the courts.” Well, that isn't the way it works in this place. So Marleau and Montpetit, at page 863, says—