I sure as heck wouldn't want to insult you, Mr. Chair, outstanding individual that you are. What I would suggest, however, is that at that committee there were names on the list....
Perhaps I could finish, Pat. I remember you talked for some 51 days one time. I don't intend to do that. I'll follow the rules here.
What I'm suggesting, Mr. Chair, is at that June 19 meeting there were members who wished to be heard. I'm challenging anybody to prove me wrong, including you, Mr. Chair. You shut the debate down.
Here's the trick that happened there. It was Monsieur Proulx who immediately challenged your ruling. For folks who are watching, that is a procedural trick. The minute a chair is challenged, debate stops, and it has to go immediately to a vote. Guess what? The majority is in the opposition.
Now, today, guess what? We have the same Liberal trickery when Madame Jennings challenges your decision on this witness list.
Let me summarize what's happening here.