In my viewing of it so far—and I guess the courts and your investigation and the commissioner's investigation will bear this out—it seems to me the Conservatives got caught when they got greedy. They might have gotten away with this laundering of money through the riding association if their objective was only to exceed the spending limits. But when they had the gall—and I mean gall—to submit those fake campaign expenses to be reimbursed for a 60% rebate, that's when the alarm went off with one of your auditors. Is it true that the red flag came up over the status of certain campaign expenses that were submitted for rebate or reimbursement, rather than the exceeding of the overall party spending limit?
On July 16th, 2008. See this statement in context.