I don't have the transcript, but I remember hearing the word “superseded” after “I want to move the motion”. I think the record will show that.
The member is quite right. There is a procedure in which you can make a motion to move to another order of business. It is not debatable, and the vote should be taken right away.
Here is what I understand the effect would be. I want members to understand this before we have the vote. We will put the question that we go to Mr. Reid's motion now. It is debatable, so we could have lots of debate. After that debate collapses, we would have a vote on that motion.
Just as we did with the previous issue of Mr. Martin's motion, there would be this debate. Then once we finished that, if for instance the members voted not to adopt the motion just made by Mr. Poilievre, then we would be able to excuse Mr. Mayrand. We would not be able to excuse the witness on the basis that we're going to do some other business before we can do this last two-second thing.
As long as the members understand, there is no debate on this. There's debate on Mr. Reid's motion, but not on the motion to move to another order of business. It's not debatable, and I must put the vote now.
Now that I've explained to members the consequences of voting one way or another--and I hope members will think very carefully about how they vote here--I'm going to call the question on Mr. Poilievre's motion that we move to another order of business, being the motion by Mr. Reid.