Now, just give me a moment, please. We can unravel this.
Mr. Tilson, you rose on a point of order and I gave you an opportunity to go on. And I ruled that it was not a point of order; it was debate. But during your statements to the committee, you suggested that I can't do that because it's not in the rules. I quoted to you from Marleau and Montpetit, which is incorporated by reference into the way we conduct our business, on the specific matter before us, which is the sub judice convention. I ruled accordingly. I ruled that that was my decision.
At this point, if the members want to overrule the chair, their only opportunity at this point, now that I have made a ruling and said that's my decision, is to challenge the decision of the chair. Okay?
Now, I have a point of order now from Mr. Goodyear. Mr. Goodyear, please.